Commies hahaha do you even know what communism is? Its a fascist form of socialism were a particular leader forces there views of socialism on there society how is anyone here a commy or supporting it so who's out of touch with reality and too far gone to come back ?

And how are freedoms pulled from your grasp you can still buy the parts, and remove smog equipment nobody is stopping you ? you just cant operate it on PUBLIC roads...... you have the choice just be prepared for the consequence of it...

What is it other than making "cool black smoke" in my eyes and the eyes of the public by doing these things you are willfully polluting and doing it to make a biased point that only helps leftys in drumming up votes for there bs agenda....

Cali will crumble in time because biased ass holes took it upon themselves to forget about common sense and the common good of people and dipped into there own beliefs and only worried about themselves, and what happened the left side exposed that and used it to drum up votes so pat yourself on the back!!!

And another thing changing my screen name to obama lover hahahaha way to go instead of droping your maturity level to that of a 2nd grader you could have at least brought it up to that of a 10th and backed it with some kind of factual information.... to top it off I didn't vote for or support the retard and the day he wakes up and chokes on his breakfast and dies will be another independence day in my book!!!!

I do take offense to it because too many people don't take offense or care that we're losing this country. Tiliton basically says "what's one man doing to solve the problems"

well fuck, at least I'm doing something rather than conforming.

Of course clean air is a good thing but these over populated areas are tiny in comparison to the grand scheme of things. If someone wants to tell me how clean to make my vehicle run.... A) I don't want to pay for it because I didn't sign up for that shit when I bought it. I want the choice.... if I'm feeling spritely that year and want to save the earth, maybe I'll get a smog check. C) If my shit fails... then give me some corrective measures to chase the issue rather than trying to squeeze every penny from me, pretending you don't have any ideas.
When it's a private business that's fine... but when it's a test only place.. they should be pandering to you like I white lib panders to obama.

I want the choice. I don't want the asshole on welfare w/ the shit vehicle on 30" wheels to have the choice. I want it.

My problem with not opposing everything coming to the table these days is clear.... give an inch, they'll take ANOTHER mile.

You really want to fix smog? really re-evaluate the driving qualification. When your license comes up for renewal you take the driving test again w/ more advanced requirements like what I do with ford. 1/2 the people will lose their license. Yea the economy will have a f-cked off extreme hiccup as this trickles through. No traffic, no smog, increased public transit (what the libs want anyways)... all the shitty drivers moving into the city. The city goes up rather than out...... many many problems solved. of course new ones are created but what doesn't cause that.

this is the critical thinking I want to see more people doing and putting it in everyone's ears is part of the process.
getting any of this kind of stuff to take hold is nearly implausible with the kind of greed the "do gooders" actually posses.


Travis... the big truck retrofit is going to put so many people out of business... it's going to create california only trucks. At every border there will then be a trailer swapping station (more tax dollars) so the out of state trucks can switch loads w/ cali. cali will crumble

Oh I forgot the best part... all the cali trucks that get shut down (goodby's?) will then get a govt takeover... goodby-obama grading. Tell me it can't happen? GM....healthcare? trucking? hmmmm how big is the trucking industry? how long until they have 50% control of the gdp? When is it communism? 51%?

Just two quick things bkizzle, Phil did'nt change your name. I can see who modifys what, it wasn't him and wasn't me. But I won't say who it was. And two, Jack looked into the secat program for our dumptrucks and they cover alot of the costs but not all, there would still be a good chunk of cash o pocket for the motor swap, and the trade in would be another payment on a new truck. when the trucks he has are crappy but paid for. And you know better than anyone the housing industry right now. He is barely getting by, keeping everyone working and paying all his taxes on employees. He could jus pay us out cash and screw the govt like they are doing to him I guess.....

I did change his name to commie1 though. "someone" else made the further mods


And yes Bjizzle... I know allllll about communism and know exactly where this country is headed w/ out extreme corrective measure asap. I really don't care how I come off to people on this site that may or may not be on the fence, BECAUSE I SHOULDN'T F-ING HAVE TO BE. Everyone is supposed to be on the same page w/ this kind of industry. If it ever comes to the table that current vehicular smog levels really aren't that big a deal and no additional corrective measures needed to be taken will everyone just shut their mouths? Can we not agree that DPF's are a greed thing more that a clean air thing? Visually smog checking diesels sure sounds like one helluva zero investment revenue generator.

I did change his name to commie1 though. "someone" else made the further mods


And yes Bjizzle... I know allllll about communism and know exactly where this country is headed w/ out extreme corrective measure asap. I really don't care how I come off to people on this site that may or may not be on the fence, BECAUSE I SHOULDN'T F-ING HAVE TO BE. Everyone is supposed to be on the same page w/ this kind of industry. If it ever comes to the table that current vehicular smog levels really aren't that big a deal and no additional corrective measures needed to be taken will everyone just shut their mouths? Can we not agree that DPF's are a greed thing more that a clean air thing? Visually smog checking diesels sure sounds like one helluva zero investment revenue generator.

What the fuck makes you think you're smarter than me in any way shape or form? Did you want to compare college educations?

You kind of sounded smart then totally lost me at the improper use of there, their, and they're.

You're still trying to argue that I want to pollute and that's my agenda. You missed the point. Do not pass go. Epic fail.

Search around to figure out who changed your name to Obama Lover..... when you find it was not me, I'll be around to accept my appology.

Man, when I see big paragraphs I really want to read everything you guys say, and I start to then I get about three sentences in and say screw it. I must have some add!

Just two quick things bkizzle, Phil did'nt change your name. I can see who modifys what, it wasn't him and wasn't me. But I won't say who it was. And two, Jack looked into the secat program for our dumptrucks and they cover alot of the costs but not all, there would still be a good chunk of cash o pocket for the motor swap, and the trade in would be another payment on a new truck. when the trucks he has are crappy but paid for. And you know better than anyone the housing industry right now. He is barely getting by, keeping everyone working and paying all his taxes on employees. He could jus pay us out cash and screw the govt like they are doing to him I guess.....

Actually Phil I agree with 90% of this.....But most smog equipment doesn't hinder mileage as bad as you think... what did was manufacturers wanting to appeal to people that wanted a high horsepower diesel a 5.9 cummins has much less power and a much less fuel rate per stroke, and not wanting to use a different type of fuel do to availability your stuck with it if you want the power, bump a 5.9 to the power of a 6.7 and I bet the mileage evens out, 86% of diesel can be converted to energy by a perfectly running engine you cannot get better than that, gasoline only 81% making diesel 11% more efficient.

bio diesel fuels can pack up to 320% of amount of fuel being converted to energy compared to fossil fuel of the same amount, however we have not come up with an efficient way to make enough yet, soy bean oil and other plants unfortunately have such a high cost of harvesting it makes it worthless, new technology has come up recently were we have found a way to extract it from algae giving it something we can grow on huge scales in a small place which will make bio fuels more available, and its renewable not saying using whats already in the ground which is also made of compresses plant and biological matter problem is it takes millions of years to make it naturally..... And the other thing bio diesel which is the only thing that goes in my tank is 100% USA made fuel, I kinda like my money staying here!!!! Also has a consistent and higher Cetane level do to bio products packing more energy than fossil fuels which in turn raises performance and economy