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dual toyota cases - Posted By chrisconley (chrisconley) on 22nd Mar 08 at 10:10pm
so i had stoddard come over and help me identify my transmission and transfer case but we were unsure what they really are.

the transmission is a 5 speed and there is a hole on the bottom of the bellhousing.

the transfer case doesn't have a reduction box, it is all one piece. so i think that it is a v6 case. if it is a v6 case is there an adapter to do this....

5spd to reduction box to v6 case?

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By chrisconley (chrisconley) on 22nd Mar 08 at 10:13pm
oh shit i just remembered it is a v6 transfer case because i used in and out of 4wheel drive while racing it. and i think you can only do that with chain driven cases.

so ya, possibly a w56 tansmission to reduction box to v6 chain driven case?

or should i just buy a gear driven case and dual both of them?

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By rockcrawlinredneck (rockcrawlinredneck) on 23rd Mar 08 at 8:17pm
It is most likely NOT a V-6 T-case. You have to have an adapter to bolt a V-6 case to a 4 cyl tranny. I dont believe that a V-6 tranny will bolt up to a 4 cyl with out changing the bell housing as well. You most likley have a w-56 tranny and a plain old 4 cyl case. If you go to www.marlincrawler.com and look in the tranny and t-case section there is a guide to diffrent trannies and t-cases with pictures and descriptions. I could be wrong on what you have, but with out pic's it is a little tuff.

Kevin

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By rockcrawlinredneck (rockcrawlinredneck) on 23rd Mar 08 at 8:28pm
Here is the page that the pics of the tranny are on. After just a real quick glance it look's like maybe a V-6 tranny will bolt to a 4cyl. The bell housing's *look* the same.

Kevin

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By chrisconley (chrisconley) on 23rd Mar 08 at 9:24pm
what the fuck there was no v6 pictures. but the toyota bellhousing off of a late 80's turbo 22re will bolt a v6 transmission to a 4cyl. i have one of those. i need a camera this is retarded i could try drawing a picture but that'd be weak...


Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By rockcrawlinredneck (rockcrawlinredneck) on 24th Mar 08 at 6:36am
I thought the same thing but if you click on the model of the V-6 tranny it takes you into another window that has a picture.

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By sarge (sarge) on 24th Mar 08 at 8:02am
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Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By chrisconley (chrisconley) on 24th Mar 08 at 12:14pm
i found out what i have. thank you for the replies.

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By rockcrawlinredneck (rockcrawlinredneck) on 24th Mar 08 at 6:40pm
So what is it?

Kevin

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By chrisconley (chrisconley) on 24th Mar 08 at 10:15pm
transmission is from a 1986 22r turbo R151F top shift.

transfer case is from v6 a VF1A Chain Driven

so now... i also have a 1980 transfer case RF1A top shift. can i use the reduction box from that in between the R151F and VF1A chain drive t-case. the splines are gonna be different but maybe they make an adapter.


Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By T-CARP (admin) on 24th Mar 08 at 10:17pm
toyota stuff to me = blah blah blah


I have no idea in the world{Confused} ?

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By BigRob (bigrob) on 24th Mar 08 at 11:07pm
 
toyota stuff to me = blah blah blah


I have no idea in the world{Confused} ?
You mean just no Idea in the toyota world right? {Grin}

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By T-CARP (admin) on 24th Mar 08 at 11:07pm
exactly!

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By chrisconley (chrisconley) on 24th Mar 08 at 11:09pm
this site was pretty informative.

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/faq/parts/

in the identification

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By rockcrawlinredneck (rockcrawlinredneck) on 25th Mar 08 at 6:32am
 
So now... i also have a 1980 transfer case RF1A top shift. can i use the reduction box from that in between the R151F and VF1A chain drive t-case. the splines are gonna be different but maybe they make an adapter.



No...Well kind of yes. You would have to get new input gear for the '80 T-case in the 23 spline varity. Stock it is a 21 spline. Your tranny (wich is the strongest most sought after stock Toy tranny) is a 23 spline. The chain drive t-case is not as strong as the gear drive ones are. The best thing for you to do in my opinion would be to get another gear drive case, and throw that chain drive up on Craigslist. To make it work you would have to buy either two 23 spline input gears and the 23 spline dual case adapter, or one 23 spline input for the front case, a 23 spline dual case adapter, and a set of 23 spline 4.70 t-case gears for the rear t-case. This would be the best route to go. So in conclusion find one more gear drive T-case and call up Marlin Crawler and drop some coin and end upo with a bad ass all 23 spline ultimate crawler with a final crawl ratio of 223:1, if you have 5.29's in the diffs.

*EDIT* Lower than 2.23:1 I believe the first gear in the turbo tranny is lower.

Kevin

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By chrisconley (chrisconley) on 25th Mar 08 at 9:34pm
ya dude my low gear is 4.31 in the tranny.

yo thank you for the tip, i think i will sell the chain driven one. i guess since im not doing the arena stuff any more i dont need the shift on the fly it allowed.

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By T-CARP (admin) on 25th Mar 08 at 9:37pm
That setup sounds bad ass too!!!

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By chrisconley (chrisconley) on 25th Mar 08 at 10:35pm
do you think i would be able to find a gear driven t-case at pnp cause wednesdays is 25% off days and i have time to go get one tomorow.

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By EdoublE (edouble) on 26th Mar 08 at 1:18pm
yeah never know....once in a while PNP will have yota shit. If you give up and just want it done. Call Jack 916.773.3278 he's in Roseville and builds the JP Eater toy cases and dana 18 and 20 stuff.

Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By jeremyhengl (jeremyhengl) on 27th Mar 08 at 8:39am
with the gear driven case , you can still shift on the fly from two , to four wheel drive as long as your hubs are locked and
your not spining the rear tires and going straight


Re: dual toyota cases - Posted By fuzzyz (fuzzyz) on 2nd Apr 08 at 7:12am
Yea i would deffenetly be looking for gear driven cases if your going duals. Heard of quite a few people breaking chain cases on the toyotas. PNP are hard to find them at cause pretty much as soon as a toyota is droped off to them there striped to the bone especially if there 4x4. or thats the case over in my area anyway. Marlin makes the addaptor to double up the chain cases but wouldnt recomend doing it if your into any kind of serious wheeling!