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Re: Help stop California smog on diesels (7th Dec 09 at 4:44am UTC)
and for state money being spent? The BAR is completely self funded by smog moneys and fines. Nothing is given to them by the state of California, if anything California makes money from the BAR.
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Re: Help stop California smog on diesels (7th Dec 09 at 5:03am UTC)
I thought it was 98 and newer{Confused} My 93 6.5 had nothing for smog equipment it was originally a nevada truck but I dont think calif. had any regs on diesels then...

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Re: Help stop California smog on diesels (7th Dec 09 at 5:05am UTC)
Im just saying we are in a big bowl and all the shit settles here. Im not saying there cars are cleaner just saying there air is cleaner.Im sure if you read what i wrote you will understand what a was trying to say. And does it make you feel better about breathing it just because some of the smog is not ours?

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Re: Help stop California smog on diesels (7th Dec 09 at 5:09am UTC)
 
Im just saying we are in a big bowl and all the shit settles here. Im not saying there cars are cleaner just saying there air is cleaner.Im sure if you read what i wrote you will understand what a was trying to say. And does it make you feel better about breathing it just because some of the smog is not ours?


No I wasnt trying to poke holes in what you said just saying extra smog regulations aren't really gonna help the valley much.... and the cleaner car thing was a general question/statement...... And I hate it that Im not just breathing my bad air but all the tree huggers prius's exhaust from the bay too :flipoff:

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Re: Help stop California smog on diesels (7th Dec 09 at 5:53am UTC)
there has been a big rumor running around that BAR is about to slapped with a lawsuit for interfearing with interstate commerce..and osha has jumped on them as well for there particulate traps for industrial and commercial deisel. they are too big and cause hazards... seems this may come to a hault for a while. lets hope so.

on another side of this, i heard about all this right before the economy turned. the second they started pushing it on busniness owners, the economy took a shit.
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Re: Help stop California smog on diesels (7th Dec 09 at 7:38am UTC)
My truck never had a DPF or cat?? Just a muffler.

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Re: Help stop California smog on diesels (7th Dec 09 at 3:31pm UTC)
 
Im just saying we are in a big bowl and all the shit settles here. Im not saying there cars are cleaner just saying there air is cleaner.Im sure if you read what i wrote you will understand what a was trying to say. And does it make you feel better about breathing it just because some of the smog is not ours?


Now tread very lightly with a statement like that. I understand it's hard to think that the people who run out lives could possibly be steering us in a bad direction for fun and profit..... but this is now like a religeon for folks that don't do the god thing.

How can you suggest that it was EVER vehicle output that created the smog in out area? Industrial output has always been the top producer and stricter rules for those folks has by and large been the way the air has been cleaned up. Why have you never heard this before? Wellllll that won't get you driving a prius now will it!

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Re: Help stop California smog on diesels (7th Dec 09 at 5:18pm UTC)
i bought my truck from the dealer with a straight pipe. are they going to pay to make it legal now?

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Re: Help stop California smog on diesels (7th Dec 09 at 6:25pm UTC)
 
My truck never had a DPF or cat?? Just a muffler.


What year is your truck? Most dont have DPF's until 07ish but you should have had a cat on most models mid 90's and up...

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Re: Help stop California smog on diesels (7th Dec 09 at 6:39pm UTC)
 
 
Im just saying we are in a big bowl and all the shit settles here. Im not saying there cars are cleaner just saying there air is cleaner.Im sure if you read what i wrote you will understand what a was trying to say. And does it make you feel better about breathing it just because some of the smog is not ours?


Now tread very lightly with a statement like that. I understand it's hard to think that the people who run out lives could possibly be steering us in a bad direction for fun and profit..... but this is now like a religeon for folks that don't do the god thing.

How can you suggest that it was EVER vehicle output that created the smog in out area? Industrial output has always been the top producer and stricter rules for those folks has by and large been the way the air has been cleaned up. Why have you never heard this before? Wellllll that won't get you driving a prius now will it!

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The industrial industry by far produces more smog I agree but does that mean we should just let cars and trucks pollute whatever they want{Confused} And even worse Forest Fires are one of the largest producers of Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere maybe theses tree huggers should let us thin the forest huh{Confused}

More regs should be lifted off the industrial industry's so that we can actually make it affordable to make things in the USA again, even though they do pollute more, its just necessary for this countries survival.... I mean if we wont China will and they are so its gonna make it into the atmosphere anyway..... and when did the US government become world police and owners of the atmosphere anyway{Confused} Politicians use global warming agenda to get them into office and line there pockets thats the only reason they care, and I totally think the global warming thing is BS but that doesnt mean we should just puff black smoke from our trucks or not have SMOG regs on cars and trucks...

And Prius's are a joke where are we gonna put all these junk batteries when they go bad every 100,000 miles and cost a couple grand to replace{Confused} {Confused} how efficient is that{Confused} I cant tow my rig to the trail with a prius anyway...lol

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Re: Help stop California smog on diesels (8th Dec 09 at 1:52am UTC)
 
My truck never had a DPF or cat?? Just a muffler.

Some of those mufflers are catilist

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Re: Help stop California smog on diesels (8th Dec 09 at 2:29am UTC)
Everything you guys ever wanted to know about this is on c.a.r.bs web sight

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Re: Help stop California smog on diesels (8th Dec 09 at 4:43am UTC)
My truck is an 03, it had JUST A MUFFLER AND WAS BONE STOCK.

I am going to move just over the border and heat my house by burning used tires, and fan the smoke towards america. {Rolleyes}

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Re: Help stop California smog on diesels (8th Dec 09 at 6:38am UTC)
 
My truck is an 03, it had JUST A MUFFLER AND WAS BONE STOCK.

I am going to move just over the border and heat my house by burning used tires, and fan the smoke towards america. {Rolleyes}


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